|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
27
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 14:34:00 -
[1] - Quote
I just seen the NEW offers in the store front. NEW offers but SAME PROBLEMS. Look I know that YOUR doing " WORK " on the game but where is it ???? What do you guys do as far as the problems that are a part of the " backlog " and how do you address those issues ????? I see new state protectorate suits and me being CALDARI that automatically caught my eye , until I looked at the bio and the meta level. Meta level one and the suit looks like a medium frame but with colors. NO THANKS !!!!!! It could have been a series suit at least. That's what I'm working with now and I just can't see myself PAYING MONEY to use a suit that was a bridge to begin with and that I don't use anymore and was happy to get rid of. Now it served it's purpose and I'm thankful because without that I wouldn't be where I am now but I looked at the other suits that are offered in the other packs that are new. They have colorful names but they are basic suits or militia for that matter but with colors and meta level's of zero and one. Why pay for basic and it's not al least a blueprint ???? I guess they are for the new players or people with money to throw around.
META LEVELS MEANS NOTHING !!!!!!!! I face off with my advanced weapons with high meta levels and get cut down by militia weapons on the regular. I have my weapons skills leveled up to three for each of my weapons that I use except for the reloads and the ammo , also I use the advanced weapons mods all the time while I use my series suits that are META LEVEL THREE. Now the advance weapons are anywhere between levels four to six maybe even three to six , while the militia and basic are anywhere between zero and two. Now if an adversary is still using a militia weapons the chances are that they are not leveled up on their skills yet because they are trying to gain other items and they are definitely not using advanced damage mods in militia suits ( META LEVEL ZERO ) because they don't have the room for the computer and programming usage and still be able to go toe to toe with a GEK-38.
I'm going to hate when I get to prototype assault rifles and the same thing happens. I might just stop playing. I'm a MAN who believes in HARD WORK and I don't mind grinding for the skill points and the ability to unlock the skill sets but when this happens it really doesn't show the FRUITS of one's LABOR and it makes it hard to keep playing when the SIMPLE things that shouldn't happen in the first place , are not addressed. People talk about this and it's not new news.
What are meta levels for ???? To me I always used them as a gauge of the items strength and make up. Even the items that boast about having being made with premium materials have HIGHER META LEVELS but I used them when the militia marines cut me down , so why use them ???? Maybe I can use my militia weapons and show what I mean to other players and mines should be stronger because of the level ups. Then people will begin to see. Why get advanced and prototypes and things like this should happen. I should cut these characters down like a hot knife threw butter but ..... well NOW I'm beginning to believe what I see when OTHERS speak about how the staff doesn't read these post or care about what we have to say or how we feel , we being the collective who play and support this game.
Armor boosters, shield boosters , weapons damage boosters , skill set boosters , needing skill points for this and that , skill points for the actual skill and all this means NOTHING. I FEEL LIKE I'M PLAYING THAT GAME CALLED MOUSE TRAP AND I'M THE MOUSE. Running around proclaiming that , " the sky is falling " trying to figure out how to stop it and nothing I do works. I'm sure I will get those ," you should do this and you should do that " but I know that it happens to those too and they get confused by it , it just doesn't bother them like it bothers me. AND IT DOES and I will admit it !!!! If I work hard and buy a LEXUS it should perform better than a MINI COOPER. I should be able to have comfort and A SURETY in knowing that , even more so because it's advertised and I worked hard to GAIN IT. Look at the definition of the word GAIN CCP and ask yourself , " why DON'T we or better yet WON'T we look into this because this topic is not a STRANGER to us and just FIX THIS so that the experience of PLAYING this game can become more rewarding , fair and you know what ..???... we invented this , the lore , the rules , the make up , the system and if there's some fault in that then maybe we should do something about it because there is some fault in US and how we are conducting not only OUR BUSINESS but OURSELVES ???" That's excepting responsibility and showing the wiliness to do something about it. Also it shows you care. Don't you ???
|
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
27
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 14:41:00 -
[2] - Quote
That's why I don't care about the " rookies " and the boot camp or anything else that has to do with them. People are soft with them and maybe that's good. But there must be some type of scale of distance like how it is between the advanced and prototypes. Of course I won't hear or see any one saying or speaking about that. That's why YOU WORK and that shows the circumstances and the effects of WORKING HARD and those who put in the time and effort. Everyone can't do it but those who do should see the difference. Also just like the rendering AND THAT IS A PROBLEM AS WELL , where I can look threw my scope and see a turret and drop a tank ( from the same distance ) then once I'm in that tank , I can't see it. These things need to be addressed. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
27
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 14:44:00 -
[3] - Quote
Thank you. I actually do sometimes. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
27
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 15:44:00 -
[4] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:I don't think you understand how meta level works.
Why didn't you explain ???? |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 17:00:00 -
[5] - Quote
Dominus Fatali wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Cosgar wrote:I don't think you understand how meta level works. Why didn't you explain ???? True, it is a measure of the relative effectiveness of a weapon. However, just because you are using Prototype gear does not mean that you are an unkillable entitiy. If I put on all Prototype gear, and walk with my back to a Militia kitten, they will kill me, as they very well should. The level of gear very rarely limits the ability of a player; someone with 15 million skill points (such as myself) using a Militia weapon (Submachine Gun Blueprint to be specific) will be able to do as well, if not better, than someone with 5 million Skill Points and Prototype gear. In short, an individual player's skill is much more important than the gear that he or she is using. Even shorter, HTFU and get gud scrub.
Thank you. I have almost five million so what you stated is understood. I'm just saying is it shouldn't be easy like basically nothing. Thank you. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 17:12:00 -
[6] - Quote
Stephen PHILLIPS87 wrote:Meta levels are just rough ideas about how good something is compared to the other mods in its category or meta group. Having a higher meta doesn't mean you just pressed the win button. Often there's very little difference between mods in each meta level. maybe a little more accurate, more capacity, less pg or more.. yadayadayada.
Stop looking for reasons why you should win when you're losing and learn to adjust to the battle.
Cheers. You don't do that ...???? ... meaning looking for reasons to win or why do you play this or any game for that matter. I'm TRYING to understand something that was bringing a since of confusion to me and I started to do something about it ... namely look for answers. Why work for skill points to obtain better weapons and gear if it doesn't help unless it's prototype. You should see some difference , some type of elevation , that's all I'm asking and saying. TRUTH BE TOLD ( something you seem NOT to understand ) is that the BETTER weapons should help you to win and kill people easier and faster or else why make the effort to obtain them ..???.. , same could be said about the suits , they should help you live longer and give you an advantage or else why obtain them..???.. what is wrong with you ???? why is it a PROBLEM for people to ADMIT THAT ???? Why gain prototype suits and weapons if YOU don't feel like they give you an advantage ???? THAT'S SILLY SO STOP THE FOOLISHNESS. They should give you an advantage , you WORKED to get it. Why would someone rich buy a private plane when they can fly American Airlines or just drive or take the train. Think about what your typing before you type it. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 17:41:00 -
[7] - Quote
Den-tredje Baron wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I just seen the NEW offers in the store front. NEW offers but SAME PROBLEMS. Look I know that YOUR doing " WORK " on the game but where is it ???? What do you guys do as far as the problems that are a part of the " backlog " and how do you address those issues ????? I see new state protectorate suits and me being CALDARI that automatically caught my eye , until I looked at the bio and the meta level. Meta level one and the suit looks like a medium frame but with colors. NO THANKS !!!!!! It could have been a series suit at least. That's what I'm working with now and I just can't see myself PAYING MONEY to use a suit that was a bridge to begin with and that I don't use anymore and was happy to get rid of. Now it served it's purpose and I'm thankful because without that I wouldn't be where I am now but I looked at the other suits that are offered in the other packs that are new. They have colorful names but they are basic suits or militia for that matter but with colors and meta level's of zero and one. Why pay for basic and it's not at least a blueprint ???? I guess they are for the new players or people with money to throw around.
META LEVELS MEANS NOTHING !!!!!!!! I face off with my advanced weapons with high meta levels and get cut down by militia weapons on the regular. I have my weapons skills leveled up to three for each of my weapons that I use except for the reloads and the ammo , also I use the advanced weapons mods all the time while I use my series suits that are META LEVEL THREE. Now the advance weapons are anywhere between levels four to six maybe even three to six , while the militia and basic are anywhere between zero and two. Now if an adversary is still using a militia weapons the chances are that they are not leveled up on their skills yet because they are trying to gain other items and they are definitely not using advanced damage mods in militia suits ( META LEVEL ZERO ) because they don't have the room for the computer and programming usage and still be able to go toe to toe with a GEK-38.
I'm going to hate when I get to prototype assault rifles and the same thing happens. I might just stop playing. I'm a MAN who believes in HARD WORK and I don't mind grinding for the skill points and the ability to unlock the skill sets but when this happens it really doesn't show the FRUITS of one's LABOR and it makes it hard to keep playing when the SIMPLE things that shouldn't happen in the first place , are not addressed. People talk about this and it's not new news.
What are meta levels for ???? To me I always used them as a gauge of the items strength and make up. Even the items that boast about having being made with premium materials have HIGHER META LEVELS but I used them when the militia marines cut me down , so why use them ???? Maybe I can use my militia weapons and show what I mean to other players and mines should be stronger because of the level ups. Then people will begin to see. Why get advanced and prototypes and things like this happens ??? I should cut these characters down like a hot knife threw butter but ..... well NOW I'm beginning to believe what I see when OTHERS speak about how the staff doesn't read these post or care about what we have to say or how we feel , we being the collective who play and support this game.
Armor boosters, shield boosters , weapons damage boosters , skill set boosters , needing skill points for this and that , skill points for the actual skill and all this means NOTHING. I FEEL LIKE I'M PLAYING THAT GAME CALLED MOUSE TRAP AND I'M THE MOUSE. Running around proclaiming that , " the sky is falling " trying to figure out how to stop it and nothing I do works. I'm sure I will get those ," you should do this and you should do that " but I know that it happens to those too and they get confused by it , it just doesn't bother them like it bothers me. AND IT DOES and I will admit it !!!! If I work hard and buy a LEXUS it should perform better than a MINI COOPER. I should be able to have comfort and A SURETY in knowing that , even more so because it's advertised and I worked hard to GAIN IT. Look at the definition of the word GAIN CCP and ask yourself , " why DON'T we or better yet WON'T we look into this because this topic is not a STRANGER to us and just FIX THIS so that the experience of PLAYING this game can become more rewarding , fair and you know what ..???... we invented this , the lore , the rules , the make up , the system and if there's some fault in that then maybe we should do something about it because there is some fault in US and how we are conducting not only OUR BUSINESS but OURSELVES ???" That's excepting responsibility and showing the wiliness to do something about it. Also it shows you care. Don't you ??? dat enter button !!! Must be the only key left on your keyboard ......
That's what I NEVER can understand. NO ONE forced you to read it. And thank you didn't think of that one. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 19:34:00 -
[8] - Quote
Stephen PHILLIPS87 wrote:Buddy, stop typing so much and read what people are telling you. Meta levels do make a difference. Each module will have different stats. To go deeper with your car metaphor... you work hard to get the lexus (congrats) but youre still an amatuer driver. The car wont make you drive any better, you still have to learn.
DUH ... THAT'S COMMON SENSE. I'm reading , that's why I put the post there in the first place for FEED BACK. These are some knowledgeable player and some of the best so who better to ask besides the DEV's. ( never get an answer back from them )
You read and stop being a POMPUS A$$ acting like your some GURU or something and humble YOURSELF. IT'S A FLIPPING VIDEO GAME. CONGRATS YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ... NOW DO YOU FEEL BETTER ????? IT'S OFFICIAL !!!!!! Now you can pat yourself on the back because no one else here will . SURE ABOUT THAT !!!!!
To all you guys and girls thanks for your imput. People tell me it doesn't matter but I feel everything on this game should if you play it but one should also understand so it wont become confusing. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.22 19:54:00 -
[9] - Quote
I've been told that shields mean nothing I need to concentrate on armor and vise versa. Meta levels mean nothing. At some point with all the things that I have herd it has become confusing. I used skill points for some of the wrong things for me by listening to the advice of others. Everyone who plays this game has a different style and that's one of the things that I liked about this. I used this topic to try and find out about something that I was told that didn't matter so I appreciate all the positive feedback. You have answered most of the questions that I had. But can someone answer the question about blueprints weapons and the permanent weapon items that you can BUY seemingly being stronger ???? |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.23 00:37:00 -
[10] - Quote
Stephen PHILLIPS87 wrote:Love you!! Kisses ;-)
Right back at ya . |
|
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.23 00:42:00 -
[11] - Quote
Rogatien Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I've been told that shields mean nothing I need to concentrate on armor and vise versa. Meta levels mean nothing. At some point with all the things that I have herd it has become confusing. I used skill points for some of the wrong things for me by listening to the advice of others. Everyone who plays this game has a different style and that's one of the things that I liked about this. I used this topic to try and find out about something that I was told that didn't matter so I appreciate all the positive feedback. You have answered most of the questions that I had. But can someone answer the question about blueprints weapons and the permanent weapon items that you can BUY seemingly being stronger ???? They are not stronger. The 'Exile' is the same stats as a standard 'Assault Rifle'. But my 'Exile' with AR Prof V and a complex damage modifier hits harder than your Duvolle. Basically, people ***** about whatever kills them.
Every one doesn't have the resume that you have in your assault rifle arsenal but I was asking because I see these guns get A LOT of kills. I know that in this game you kill and get killed , that's a no brainer but sometimes the ways that it happen seem a bit cheesy. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.23 00:51:00 -
[12] - Quote
Skihids wrote:As others have stated, gear and skills do make a difference, but it matters very little if someone gets the drop on your with the current low TTK for just about any fitting.
If someone starts shooting you in the back it's going to take you a couple seconds to turn around and engage the enemy. It's only about one more second before he cuts you down with a militia AR.
Situational awareness and flanking is much more a factor than gear, and it's something that belongs to the player not the character.
A lot of experienced vets with high skill levels run low meta level fits which can mislead you. Seeing that a STD suit with a MLT BPO rifle killed you leads you to believe that the stats are broken.
What the kill screen won't tell you is that they guy had level 5 prof and SS on his AR with a complex damage mod making it more lethal than your GEK with prof 1. It also won't tell you that he's been playing for a year and knows exactly where you are likely to be and flanked you to get the drop on you.
Levels in DUST are nothing like what they are in a traditional MMO. High levels don't mean invulnerability from low levels. It gives you an edge, but you have to know how to take advantage of it. Think of it as having an 8" knife when your opponent has a 4" blade. It's an advantage, but it's not going to help if you turn your back to him.
People like YOU are the reason that I wrote this. I wish I could give you five likes. THANK YOU !!!!!! Seriously. This is what I was looking for. A shame others can't give such detailed statements when speaking , all they want to do is break you down and that doesn't help at all. Everyone who puts up a post like this one isn't crying about loosing or getting killed , ( It happen to the BEST of them ) it might sound like that because of the frustration that's present at the time of writing but they are looking for instruction and little gems like this one that turns a light switch on so they can understand and not be spoken to like a kid that had it's " toy taken away and this is why ". No one want's to be demeaned , at least I don't . THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HELPFUL. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.23 02:41:00 -
[13] - Quote
Rogatien Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I've been told that shields mean nothing I need to concentrate on armor and vise versa. Meta levels mean nothing. At some point with all the things that I have herd it has become confusing. I used skill points for some of the wrong things for me by listening to the advice of others. Everyone who plays this game has a different style and that's one of the things that I liked about this. I used this topic to try and find out about something that I was told that didn't matter so I appreciate all the positive feedback. You have answered most of the questions that I had. But can someone answer the question about blueprints weapons and the permanent weapon items that you can BUY seemingly being stronger ???? They are not stronger. The 'Exile' is the same stats as a standard 'Assault Rifle'. But my 'Exile' with AR Prof V and a complex damage modifier hits harder than your Duvolle. Basically, people ***** about whatever kills them. Every one doesn't have the resume that you have in your assault rifle arsenal but I was asking because I see these guns get A LOT of kills. I know that in this game you kill and get killed , that's a no brainer but sometimes the ways that it happen seem a bit cheesy. You'd actually be surprised how many people have AR Prof III, IV or V. The AR is the most commonly used weapon, and the Exile is the BPO version of it, and it has been given out / included in packages for more than a year. That's why it is seen a lot. Also, as soon as you notice something, you start taking note of it more; it's a brain thing. Just reaffirming that it is not because the BPO is more powerful than the ISK version.
THANK YOU AS WELL. It is a brain thing and it made me curious , your ABSOLUTELY right.
Spot on. And I'm not British. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
28
|
Posted - 2013.10.23 02:54:00 -
[14] - Quote
Skihids wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Skihids wrote:As others have stated, gear and skills do make a difference, but it matters very little if someone gets the drop on your with the current low TTK for just about any fitting.
If someone starts shooting you in the back it's going to take you a couple seconds to turn around and engage the enemy. It's only about one more second before he cuts you down with a militia AR.
Situational awareness and flanking is much more a factor than gear, and it's something that belongs to the player not the character.
A lot of experienced vets with high skill levels run low meta level fits which can mislead you. Seeing that a STD suit with a MLT BPO rifle killed you leads you to believe that the stats are broken.
What the kill screen won't tell you is that they guy had level 5 prof and SS on his AR with a complex damage mod making it more lethal than your GEK with prof 1. It also won't tell you that he's been playing for a year and knows exactly where you are likely to be and flanked you to get the drop on you.
Levels in DUST are nothing like what they are in a traditional MMO. High levels don't mean invulnerability from low levels. It gives you an edge, but you have to know how to take advantage of it. Think of it as having an 8" knife when your opponent has a 4" blade. It's an advantage, but it's not going to help if you turn your back to him. People like YOU are the reason that I wrote this. I wish I could give you five likes. THANK YOU !!!!!! Seriously. This is what I was looking for. A shame others can't give such detailed statements when speaking , all they want to do is break you down and that doesn't help at all. Everyone who puts up a post like this one isn't crying about loosing or getting killed , ( It happen to the BEST of them ) it might sound like that because of the frustration that's present at the time of writing but they are looking for instruction and little gems like this one that turns a light switch on so they can understand and not be spoken to like a kid that had it's " toy taken away and this is why ". No one want's to be demeaned , at least I don't . THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HELPFUL. MAY THE GOOD LORD BLESS YOU. YOU HAVE CLASS. To be fair to the others they have heard complaints over and over to the point tthat they assume people know better but are just complaining. We get alot of that on the forums. To elaborate, the suits and weapons have had their differences muted over time. Suits used to go up in base HP quite a bit with meta level and weapons used to go up in damage more too. Meta level meant much more back then, causing many to complain that gear meant more than skill. There are also folks who want further tiericide to completely remove the difference in power levels, leaving only different specializations. The reduction in power difference has led to more folks running the cheaper lower level gear. I believe that fact is the cause of the current BPO issue. CCP sold BPOs of MLT and STD items for cash thinking that folks would eventually quit using them when they skilled into ADV or PROTO gear. The problem is that used to be true but with the changes it isn't any more. BPOs are attractvie for vets now that character skill levels are high and player skill makes more of a difference. That means vets are frerquently using BPOs and that's affecting the economy. It also means you will frequently be killed by low meta levels.
See that's what I mean. You give a definition as well as history. I have to thank you again for the information and that's EXACTLY what I need. That's food for the brain right there. Now I understand BPO's too and I always wondered about that but see , you didn't even know and you answered that question for me. I just didn't want to seem stupid but I have to remember to not be afraid to ask. I've only been playing a little under two month's now. But that's why I post items to get an understanding because this can be overwhelming and confusing if I let it because I want to be great in DUST but it just takes time. THANK YOU AGAIN. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
29
|
Posted - 2013.10.23 03:21:00 -
[15] - Quote
Thor McStrut wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I've been told that shields mean nothing I need to concentrate on armor and vise versa. Meta levels mean nothing. At some point with all the things that I have herd it has become confusing. I used skill points for some of the wrong things for me by listening to the advice of others. Everyone who plays this game has a different style and that's one of the things that I liked about this. I used this topic to try and find out about something that I was told that didn't matter so I appreciate all the positive feedback. You have answered most of the questions that I had. But can someone answer the question about blueprints weapons and the permanent weapon items that you can BUY seemingly being stronger ???? They are not stronger. The 'Exile' is the same stats as a standard 'Assault Rifle'. But my 'Exile' with AR Prof V and a complex damage modifier hits harder than your Duvolle. Basically, people ***** about whatever kills them. Every one doesn't have the resume that you have in your assault rifle arsenal but I was asking because I see these guns get A LOT of kills. I know that in this game you kill and get killed , that's a no brainer but sometimes the ways that it happen seem a bit cheesy. You'd actually be surprised how many people have AR Prof III, IV or V. The AR is the most commonly used weapon, and the Exile is the BPO version of it, and it has been given out / included in packages for more than a year. That's why it is seen a lot. Also, as soon as you notice something, you start taking note of it more; it's a brain thing. Just reaffirming that it is not because the BPO is more powerful than the ISK version. Exactly. My Toxin AR hits like a Duvolle because I have the skills for a Duvolle, and running damage mods. Also, my core fitting skills are all 4 or 5, so my BPO or standard suit is as good or better as your Adv suit with your crappier skills. I'm just running a cheaper fit isk wise, but not skill wise.
Hell it still works well. Now I have learned more from just the two of you and from running this piece than I have learned all the while I have played this game. No offence to anyone else because like I have said before there are some GREAT people who play this game and now I know that you guys have GREAT CHARACTER and CLASS and I thank you because you have help me more than you ever will know. Now I can't get upset at whatever happens. It's up to me to just get better. You guys have saved my Dust experience and made it better. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
29
|
Posted - 2013.10.23 03:35:00 -
[16] - Quote
Thor McStrut wrote:As this game grows, you'll never be able to know enough. As soon as you get something figured out, you'll change your fancy, and have to start learning all over again. CCP propagates this mentality by refusing to properly document their games. This has the effect of encouraging their community to design and distribute their own tools and guides. Believe it or not, it actually strengthens the fan base.
And strengthen their group of DEV's as well because they use the ideals and takes advantage of what is spoken and incorporate the spoken into the game for FREE I see just twisting it a little so that it's not that obvious , so it seems. They should hire some of you guys because you have so much knowledge for you to have not been on the DEV team. I read what people write and say and some of you guys and girls have the talent and are amazing. |
|
|
|